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Aromatomato: Removed ARCHWAR per Hypello

2021-06-04T04:33:36Z

Removed ARCHWAR per Hypello

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Funnyname: Clarified and expanded a few things.

2011-01-24T15:40:42Z

Clarified and expanded a few things.

Arathorn: clarification

2009-04-09T06:52:32Z

clarification

Arathorn: Local Maxima in mp income is obsolete

2009-04-09T06:51:24Z

Local Maxima in mp income is obsolete

Groentje: /* Mana Graph */

2008-04-12T11:07:04Z

‎Mana Graph

Groentje: /* Effectiveness of Nodes */

2008-04-12T10:54:11Z

‎Effectiveness of Nodes

Groentje: /* Effectiveness of Nodes */

2008-04-12T10:52:37Z

‎Effectiveness of Nodes

Groentje: /* Effectiveness of Nodes */

2008-04-12T10:48:50Z

‎Effectiveness of Nodes

Groentje: Restructuring

2008-04-12T10:39:58Z

Restructuring

Groentje: /* Base node yield formula */

2008-04-12T10:33:30Z

‎Base node yield formula

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 * MP is consumed by many army [[units]] and [[heroes]], by magic (spell casting, [[:Category:Enchantments|enchantments]] upkeep, [[defense assignment]]), by [[barriers]]. Your status report breaks down the total upkeep.
-* On most servers (except ARCH), summoning is restricted by your m.p. income:
+* On most servers (except ARCH and ARCHWAR), summoning is restricted by your m.p. income:
-** when your income is negative, you cannot summon, recruit or buy more troops and your enchantments will no longer yield units.
+** when your income is negative, you cannot summon, recruit or buy more troops and your enchantments will no longer yield units, and no beneficial enchants can be cast on yourself.
 * There are also game features that alter the efficiency of your [[nodes]]: when [[items]], [[heroes]] or [[enchantments]] reduce your MP production, that is called 'Hidden upkeep'.
 ==MP charging==
-MP charging generates MP based on your "Income": it doubles what your nodes generate normally.
+MP charging generates MP based on your "Income": each turn spent charging will give you an amount of mana equal to your net mana income, on top of the mana gained (Or lost) on the spent turn. So if you have nothing in your kingdom reducing mana, you will gain the net income twice, but if you are oversummoned and your mana is in negative, you will gain the net mana per charge, and have your mana reduced by the negative number as well. Thus one have to consider actual mana income when charging - when really oversummoned you gain nothing, and disbanding a bit of army before charging means you get extra mana as well.
 * MP charging a good part of the [[turns]] in your [[turns|turn cycle]] is essential for day-to-day oversummoning, and in upkeeping a huge army on relative small land, and an important part for strategies for many colors.
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 <b>Spell</b>
-* [[Earthquake]] will destroys part of targets MP, as well as a LOT of your own.
+* [[Earthquake]] will destroys part of targets MP, as well as ALL of your own.
 * [[Wish]] can make you lose MP (100k) or give you Efreeti Bottle which can give you MP.

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 <b>Local Maxima</b>
 * Because of an extra rounding in the old m.p. formula, it was better to have (for example) 43.99% than to have 44.0% nodes. Depending on the number of nodes and the amount of land, destroying one could be more beneficial than building one.
-* This extra rounding in the middle of the mana income formula was removed, getting rid of the local maxima and making M.P. income smoothly increase along with nodes at all points (until 55% max).
+* This extra rounding in the middle of the mana income formula was removed, getting rid of the local maxima and making M.P. income smoothly increase along with nodes at all points (with diminishing returns and until 55% max, as always).

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 * Moon [[GodFavour|god favour]] and most favour increases node MP generation (by 10% resp. 20%)
 * Moon [[GodFavour|god disfavour]] and hatred decreases node MP generation (by 10% resp. 20%)
 =Harvesting Mana from nodes=
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 * Stepped decreasing linear lines in the graph show decreasing gain-per-node above 10% node land use (LEFT axis) for normal and moons-favour situation.
 * Saw-tooth parabolic-like curves on the graph show what the m.p. yield for a given %percentage of nodes (RIGHT axis) for 2K, 3K, 4K, 5K and 5K+moon's [[GodFavour|favour]] situations.
 ==Base node yield formula==
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 ** The Holy Light : - 0.25 Y
 ** ...
 =More?=

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 ** depending on the number of nodes and the amount of land, destroying one can be more benefitial than building one.
-=Mana Graph=
+=Harvesting Mana from nodes=
-==Graph==
+==Mana Graph==
 [[image:AMNodebreakdown.jpg]]
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 * The production per turn is almost the same for having 45% or 55% nodes. The latter number enables you to store more m.p. though (after charging a lot of turns or popping the mana items).
 * In other words: you can support less m.p.-eating army with 70% nodes than you can on 50% nodes.

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 ''Typical Usage''
 * If having much m.p. gain for invested node land numbers is your thing, having more than 45% nodes to summon and upkeep your army is typically not worth it.
-** The no-[[oversummoning]] game-change has made it favourable to drop the number of nodes unless you play a spell mage).
+** The no-[[oversummoning]] game-change has made it favourable to drop the number of nodes for traditionally mana-heavy colors such as {{green}} Verdancy, {{white}} Ascendant and {{blue}} Phantasm magic.
 ** Worrying about keeping your node-number just below a whole number is only important at larger amounts of land.
 * If storing as much m.p. as possible on as little land you have is your goal: building over 45% nodes is worth it.

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 * In other words: you can support less m.p.-eating army with 70% nodes than you can on 50% nodes.
 ''Usage''
-* If having much value for numbers is your thing, having over 45% nodes is typically not worth it.
+''Typical Usage''
 ** Worrying about keeping your node-number just below a whole number is only important at larger amounts of land.
 * If storing as much m.p. as possible on as little land you have is your goal: building over 45% nodes is worth it.
 ** You can use >55% nodes if you have special need for lots of m.p. (eg casting [[Armageddon]], or preparing a [[Volcano Eruption|VE-bombardment]] or prepare to [[Earthquake]] a big mage or whatever).
 ''Details in the graph''

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 ==Effectiveness of Nodes==
-The graph  below illustrates that the more nodes you have, the less each individual nodes generates, and that above it is usually not worth building any more [[nodes]]: it will make you able to store more m.p., but per turn it will lower your m.p. generation, meaning you can support less m.p.-eating army with 70% nodes than you can on 50% nodes.
+The graph  below illustrates that the more nodes you have, the less each individual nodes generates.
+Above a certain value, therefore it is usually not worth building any more [[nodes]].
-* Stepped decreasing linear lines on the graph show decreasing gain-per-node above 10% node land use (LEFT axis) for normal and moons-favour situation.
+* Building above 55% nodes, will make you able to store more m.p., '''but''' per turn it will lower your net m.p. generation!
 * Saw-tooth parabolic-like curves on the graph show what the m.p. yield for a given %percentage of nodes (RIGHT axis) for 2K, 3K, 4K, 5K and 5K+moon's [[GodFavour|favour]] situations.
 * the saw-tooth makes that for your m.p. income, sometimes it is better to destroy 1 node than to build 1 [[nodes|node]] (because of rounding). On 2K land it is a trivial effect, on 5K land between 25 and 55% nodes it becomes significant: you better check if your nodes are 'just below a whole %' right after each landrun.
 ==Base node yield formula==

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 * There are also game features that alter the efficiency of your [[nodes]]: when [[items]], [[heroes]] or [[enchantments]] reduce your MP production, that is called 'Hidden upkeep'.
-=Game features affecting M.P.=
+==MP charging==
 <b>Items</b>
 * [[Mana Crystal]] (lesser item) generates MP for your kingdom (random amount).
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 <b>The number of nodes</b>
-* Because of rounding in the m.p. formula (see text and chart below),
+* Because of rounding in the m.p. formula (see [[Mana#Mana_Chart|text and chart below]]),
 ** it is better to have e.g. 44.99% than to have 45.0% nodes.
 ** depending on the number of nodes and the amount of land, destroying one can be more benefitial than building one.
-=MP charging=
+=Mana Graph=
-MP charging generates MP based on your "Income": it doubles what your nodes generate normally.
+==Graph==
+[[image:AMNodebreakdown.jpg]]
-=zero m.p.=
+==Effectiveness of Nodes==
 The graph  below illustrates that the more nodes you have, the less each individual nodes generates, and that above it is usually not worth building any more [[nodes]]: it will make you able to store more m.p., but per turn it will lower your m.p. generation, meaning you can support less m.p.-eating army with 70% nodes than you can on 50% nodes.
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 * Side note: having over 45% nodes on your land enables you to store more m.p. after charging a lot of turns than e.g. 45% nodes, but you will not produce more m.p. each single turn. You should only use >55% nodes if you have special need for lots of m.p. (eg casting [[Armageddon]], or preparing a [[Volcano Eruption|VE-bombardment]] or prepare to [[Earthquake]] a big mage or whatever).
-=Base node yield formula=
+==Base node yield formula==
 After some investigation, i found out the REAL node yield formula.
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 ** ...
-=Mana Graph=
+=More?=
-[[image:AMNodebreakdown.jpg]]
+UBB thread of interest: http://ubb.the-reincarnation.com/viewtopic.php?t=12718
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