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The skills are divided into two groups: speciality-specific ({{White}}{{Red}}{{Green}}{{Blue}}{{Black}}) and non-specific (Plain, {{Plain}}) skills. The first group is the more powerful, but training color-specific skills other than your own color, takes double the time of developing a plain one.  
 
The skills are divided into two groups: speciality-specific ({{White}}{{Red}}{{Green}}{{Blue}}{{Black}}) and non-specific (Plain, {{Plain}}) skills. The first group is the more powerful, but training color-specific skills other than your own color, takes double the time of developing a plain one.  
  
When you train yourself in one skill, you increase your rank in it. There are 20 ranks in each skill, and attaining each next rank is more expensive (see the table below). Off-color skills take twice the investment.
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When you train yourself in one skill, you increase your level in it. There are 20 levels in each skill, and attaining each next level is more expensive (see the table below). Off-color skills take twice the investment.
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Reaching each new level, costs you its enumerator (at the lack of a better word) worth of ''skill points''. You gain these skill points at a rate based on [[turns|server speed]], and the <b>square root of</b> the number of [[guilds]] you keep.
  
 
=Developing your skills=
 
=Developing your skills=
There are 10 different skills that a mage can develop slowly over time. You can generate skill credits faster by having more [[Guilds]] on your land (the buildings where your population works on developing magic).  
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From time to time, when you have accumulated enough skill points, you level up the skill that you had activated in the skill page.
  
Skill development is based on a 'research points' income. Originally: 1 guild generates 10 points per turn (but less if you build over 10%, because only small percentage of inhabitants of your country is talented enough to perform such exceptional science). For example, with 3500 acres your maximum income will be 3500 points/turn, as long as you maintain at least 350 guilds. Starting December 2006, this was changed and it became the amount of land that determines how fast skill points generate. This means you no longer have to maintain guilds just for skill points after researching (currently on Guild - Blitz and Apprentice will follow in February 2007).
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There are 10 different skills that a mage can develop slowly over time (see below)
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You are advised to choose wisely what skill to activate for development.  
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You can switch attention later on of course, but you cannot withdraw invested skill points.  
  
From time to time, when you have accumulated enough research points, they turn into skill credits (also called Skill Points).
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The amount of research points that make a skill point differ per server.
 
 
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<table>
<tr><td>server speed</td><td width="20"> </td><td>research points needed<br> to get a skill point</td></tr>
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<tr><td>server speed</td><td width="20"> </td><td>skill ticks needed<br> to get one skill point</td><td> </td><td>On 600 land<br>with 5% guild</td><td> </td><td>On 2000 land<br>with 5% guild</td><td> </td><td>On 5000 land<br>with 5% guild</td></tr>
<tr><td>Blitz - 1turn/5min</td><td> </td><td>???,???</td></tr>
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<tr><td>Blitz - 1turn/5min</td><td> </td><td>???,???</td> <td> </td><td>239 turns</td> <td> </td><td>y turns</td> <td> </td><td>34 turns</td></tr>
<tr><td>Guild - 1turn/10min</td><td> </td><td>250,000</td></tr>
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<tr><td>Beta - 1turn/5min</td><td> </td><td>???,???</td> <td> </td><td>239 turns</td> <td> </td><td>y turns</td> <td> </td><td>34 turns</td></tr>
<tr><td>App - 1turn/15min</td><td> </td><td>???,???</td></tr>
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<tr><td>Solo - 1turn/7min</td><td> </td><td>???,???</td> <td> </td><td>x turns</td> <td> </td><td>y turns</td> <td> </td><td>z turns</td></tr>
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<tr><td>Guild - 1turn/7min</td><td> </td><td>???,???</td> <td> </td><td>x turns</td> <td> </td><td>y turns</td> <td> </td><td>z turns</td></tr>
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<tr><td>Arch - 1turn/12min</td><td> </td><td>???,???</td> <td> </td><td>x turns</td> <td> </td><td>y turns</td> <td> </td><td>z turns</td></tr>
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<tr><td>Archwar - 1turn/8min</td><td> </td><td>???,???</td> <td> </td><td>x turns</td> <td> </td><td>y turns</td> <td> </td><td>z turns</td></tr>
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<tr><td>Lightning - 1turn/2min</td><td> </td><td>???,???</td> <td> </td><td>x turns</td> <td> </td><td>y turns</td> <td> </td><td>z turns</td></tr>
 
</table>
 
</table>
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* You can invest gained skill credits any time you want. But:
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** Spending a skill credit costs 1 turn.  
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A cast of [[Wish]] can give you an instant skill point, and thus makes you reach a next skill level dozens of turns faster.
** You are adviced to choose wisely, what skill to develop. You can switch attention later on ofcourse, but you cannot withdraw invested skill credits.
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** Undecisive players can store an unlimited number of not-yet-used Skill Credits (Guild server, starting December 2006)
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*** Originally: You could store a maximum of 5 unused Skill Credits. If you gain a sixth, it is lost (Blitz, Apprentice until Feb. 2007).  
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On Beta, the turns required to gain a skill point (if you have 5% guilds) are ~166k / land. That means that at 5k land, you gain a skill point every ~34 turns. So, leveling a skill from 0 to 1 takes 34 turns, while leveling a skill from 19 to 20 requires ~670 turns at 5k land and only ~630 turns, if you gain a free skill point from Wish.
  
 
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You can develop one skill very far (to level 20 over 2-3 months of time), or you can develop a couple of skills to a decent level. The game rounds (resets) are too short to develop all skills to the maximum of level 20.<br>
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You can easily develop one skill to level 20 over the course of an entire reset.  Getting two skills to level 20 requires a much more substantial investment in guilds -- four times as many. Of course, you don't have to take skills all the way to level 20 -- you could get four skills to level 10 each in about the same time it takes to get one skill to level 20.
Developing plain and on-color skills is cheap. Developing off-color skills costs double. It is nearly impossible to get an off-color skill to level 20 within the length of a game round.
 
  
=Tips what skill to develop first=
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Developing off-color skills costs double the price of on-color or neutral skills.
  
Just pointing the obvious about skills:
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=Tips on what skill to develop first=
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Just pointing out the obvious about skills:
 
Its not what you take first and what second, its how you adjust skills to your game style.
 
Its not what you take first and what second, its how you adjust skills to your game style.
A whorer/defensive mage should obviously pick barrier resistance and grand enchanter to ensure his defence and his incomes while he masses up lots and lots of money / items etc.
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A hoarder/defensive mage should obviously pick barrier resistance and grand enchanter to ensure his defense and his income while he masses up lots of money / items etc.
(also grand enchanter works perfectly for spells like confusion/dnd/Meteor storm, other than the obvious "love and peace" and "weather summoning")
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(also grand enchanter works perfectly for spells like confuse/dnd/Meteor storm, other than the obvious "love and peace" and "weather summoning")
  
A warmage on the opposite needs either barrier penetration, legendary commander or grand conqueror
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A war mage on the opposite needs either barrier penetration, legendary commander or grand conqueror
 
for the same reasons.
 
for the same reasons.
  
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in this game and pick the skills so you do it best way possible.
 
in this game and pick the skills so you do it best way possible.
  
For those people that are a bit more advanced to the game mechanics they could cut up the loses though.
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For those people that are a bit more knowledgeable about the game mechanics they could cut their losses.
 
That is to pick the skills that make up for your natural disadvantages as a player.
 
That is to pick the skills that make up for your natural disadvantages as a player.
Someone who cannot play a full run properly due to lack of turns or bad use of mana then "augment summoning" will reduce the castings needed to make an army (thus less mana used also) and the first 3 ranks in the phantasm skill is 3% less mana cost on all spells. ( 4rth rank is -3.6% i dont know further )
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Someone who cannot play a full run properly due to lack of turns or bad use of mana then "augment summoning" will reduce the castings needed to make an army (thus less mana used also) and the first 3 ranks in the phantasm skill is 3% less mana cost on all spells. ( 4rth rank is -3.6% i dont know further [Edit: lvl 6 is -6%] )
 
 
=Additional Info (cut-paste, not ordered)=
 
 
 
Q: It would even take more than a month to get 210 skill points at 10k land on s1.
 
* A: Yes it does. Ranks above 15 are considered very high and take loong to gain. But, i'll adjust skill points income during the reset, this is just a draft.
 
  
Q: The peope who are good at the game will increase dramatically faster than people who aren't that good at the game (like me). It will take a longer time for somone in the lower ranks to gain in the ranks cuz the higher ranked people will have more skills.  
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Another thing to consider is how the skill will affect the end-game. The most common thing to do is either level a single skill to 20, or have a couple or more skills at 10. Consider how your choice of skill will leave you compared to other people with their own choice of skill. Will your level 20 Spell Penetration help when everyone has their army boosted by Legendary Commander 20? Will having gotten Grand Enchanter to 5 first mean you have less of the skill you trained second and put you at a disadvantage?
* A: People who rank fast will be most probably interested in completely different set of skills than people who sit in mid ranks. The worst effect comes to good rankers who intentionally sit low for first month or two, but it's their own decision :)
 
* Besides, I count on general human tendency to MAX one thing instead of mixing various effects. And it is very costy and takes looots of time even for big mages.
 
  
(sogrom Q&A's from UBB forum early in 2005)
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=Old Information=
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Originally,
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* You could store a maximum of 5 unused Skill Credits. If you gain a sixth, it is lost (until Feb. 2007)
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* Spending a skill point took one turn -- discontinued when skill collection was made 'passive' (until Feb. 2007)
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* Skill collection was based <b>linearly</b> on the number of guilds you had (not on the square root of that number), and only guilds up to 5% of your land total counted.  So most mages ran exactly 5% guiilds, and high-land mages gained skill points 3 or 4 times as fast as normal mages.  (changed ??? early 2009??)
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Icon ASCENDANT.gif Legendary Artificer | Icon VERDANT.gif Animal Mastery | Icon ERADICATION.gif Spell Penetration | Icon NETHER.gif Undead Mastery | Icon PHANTASM.gif Spell Mastery

Icon PLAIN.gif Barrier Proficiency | Icon PLAIN.gif Grand Enchanter | Icon PLAIN.gif Legendary Commander | Icon PLAIN.gif Augment Summoning | Icon PLAIN.gif Grand Conqueror


Introduction

The mages you can hire in Guilds can spend their time on thaumaturgical research, improving existing magic techniques. All this effort at some point can become useful even to most powerful mages, such as you. When you build Mage Guilds on your land, people working in them can not only help in researching new spells or uncovering ancient artifacts - they will also spend their time on mentioned thaumaturgy.

The skills are divided into two groups: speciality-specific (Icon ASCENDANT.gifIcon ERADICATION.gifIcon VERDANT.gifIcon PHANTASM.gifIcon NETHER.gif) and non-specific (Plain, Icon PLAIN.gif) skills. The first group is the more powerful, but training color-specific skills other than your own color, takes double the time of developing a plain one.

When you train yourself in one skill, you increase your level in it. There are 20 levels in each skill, and attaining each next level is more expensive (see the table below). Off-color skills take twice the investment.

Reaching each new level, costs you its enumerator (at the lack of a better word) worth of skill points. You gain these skill points at a rate based on server speed, and the square root of the number of guilds you keep.

Developing your skills

From time to time, when you have accumulated enough skill points, you level up the skill that you had activated in the skill page.

There are 10 different skills that a mage can develop slowly over time (see below) You are advised to choose wisely what skill to activate for development. You can switch attention later on of course, but you cannot withdraw invested skill points.

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server speed skill ticks needed
to get one skill point
On 600 land
with 5% guild
On 2000 land
with 5% guild
On 5000 land
with 5% guild
Blitz - 1turn/5min ???,??? 239 turns y turns 34 turns
Beta - 1turn/5min ???,??? 239 turns y turns 34 turns
Solo - 1turn/7min ???,??? x turns y turns z turns
Guild - 1turn/7min ???,??? x turns y turns z turns
Arch - 1turn/12min ???,??? x turns y turns z turns
Archwar - 1turn/8min ???,??? x turns y turns z turns
Lightning - 1turn/2min ???,??? x turns y turns z turns


A cast of Wish can give you an instant skill point, and thus makes you reach a next skill level dozens of turns faster.


On Beta, the turns required to gain a skill point (if you have 5% guilds) are ~166k / land. That means that at 5k land, you gain a skill point every ~34 turns. So, leveling a skill from 0 to 1 takes 34 turns, while leveling a skill from 19 to 20 requires ~670 turns at 5k land and only ~630 turns, if you gain a free skill point from Wish.


RankRank InvestTotal Invest RankRank InvestTotal Invest
111 111166
223 121278
336 131391
4410 1414105
5515 1515120
6621 1616136
7728 1717153
8836 1818171
9945 1919190
101055 2020210

You can easily develop one skill to level 20 over the course of an entire reset. Getting two skills to level 20 requires a much more substantial investment in guilds -- four times as many. Of course, you don't have to take skills all the way to level 20 -- you could get four skills to level 10 each in about the same time it takes to get one skill to level 20.

Developing off-color skills costs double the price of on-color or neutral skills.

Tips on what skill to develop first

Just pointing out the obvious about skills: Its not what you take first and what second, its how you adjust skills to your game style. A hoarder/defensive mage should obviously pick barrier resistance and grand enchanter to ensure his defense and his income while he masses up lots of money / items etc. (also grand enchanter works perfectly for spells like confuse/dnd/Meteor storm, other than the obvious "love and peace" and "weather summoning")

A war mage on the opposite needs either barrier penetration, legendary commander or grand conqueror for the same reasons.

If you are going to attack a lot then boost your attack powers ! If you are going to defend a lot boost your resistance. At all points choose what you like to do in this game and pick the skills so you do it best way possible.

For those people that are a bit more knowledgeable about the game mechanics they could cut their losses. That is to pick the skills that make up for your natural disadvantages as a player. Someone who cannot play a full run properly due to lack of turns or bad use of mana then "augment summoning" will reduce the castings needed to make an army (thus less mana used also) and the first 3 ranks in the phantasm skill is 3% less mana cost on all spells. ( 4rth rank is -3.6% i dont know further [Edit: lvl 6 is -6%] )

Another thing to consider is how the skill will affect the end-game. The most common thing to do is either level a single skill to 20, or have a couple or more skills at 10. Consider how your choice of skill will leave you compared to other people with their own choice of skill. Will your level 20 Spell Penetration help when everyone has their army boosted by Legendary Commander 20? Will having gotten Grand Enchanter to 5 first mean you have less of the skill you trained second and put you at a disadvantage?

Old Information

Originally,

  • You could store a maximum of 5 unused Skill Credits. If you gain a sixth, it is lost (until Feb. 2007)
  • Spending a skill point took one turn -- discontinued when skill collection was made 'passive' (until Feb. 2007)
  • Skill collection was based linearly on the number of guilds you had (not on the square root of that number), and only guilds up to 5% of your land total counted. So most mages ran exactly 5% guiilds, and high-land mages gained skill points 3 or 4 times as fast as normal mages. (changed ??? early 2009??)