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* you get the opposite effect as their favour gives you for Disfavour. There are random 'short term' penalties associated with disfavor (Offensive Enchantments, [[Battle Chant]], [[Serenity]], [[Destroy Artifacts]], [[Fool's Gold]], [[heroes|Hero]] death, [[Luck#Bad_Luck|Bad Luck]], No Damaged Protection, etc. are all possible).
 
* you get the opposite effect as their favour gives you for Disfavour. There are random 'short term' penalties associated with disfavor (Offensive Enchantments, [[Battle Chant]], [[Serenity]], [[Destroy Artifacts]], [[Fool's Gold]], [[heroes|Hero]] death, [[Luck#Bad_Luck|Bad Luck]], No Damaged Protection, etc. are all possible).
 
* you get double the opposite effect for Hatred.  (e.g. -40 spell level for Magic Hatred). There are random 'short term' penalties associated with hatred (some more fatal than others), typically much more severe than disfavor penalties. (Offensive Enchantments, [[Battle Chant]], [[Serenity]], [[Destroy Artifacts]], [[Fool's Gold]], [[Earthquake]], [[Volcano Eruption]], a 'Super' [[Atomic Bomb]], Hero Death, [[Luck#Bad_Luck|Bad Luck]], No Damaged Protection, etc. are all possible)
 
* you get double the opposite effect for Hatred.  (e.g. -40 spell level for Magic Hatred). There are random 'short term' penalties associated with hatred (some more fatal than others), typically much more severe than disfavor penalties. (Offensive Enchantments, [[Battle Chant]], [[Serenity]], [[Destroy Artifacts]], [[Fool's Gold]], [[Earthquake]], [[Volcano Eruption]], a 'Super' [[Atomic Bomb]], Hero Death, [[Luck#Bad_Luck|Bad Luck]], No Damaged Protection, etc. are all possible)
* You cannot dispell gods spells.
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* You cannot dispell gods spells. (no clue if this is true, but I'm pretty sure minor indulgence gets rid of God spells)
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* Like all God spells, these have increased potency (DA took 50 items from me)
  
 
= Hero testing =
 
= Hero testing =

Revision as of 23:47, 13 September 2008

How to get Favour

You do that by donating, a nice amount of your geld on the Altar of Darkness, found in the Black Market.

You need to donate a significant amount to stand a chance.

  • Minimum is 10% of your total geld. Total geld includes what geld you have temporarily on black market, in the form of bids.

on top of that,

  • minimum for Beta server (1 turn/5 min) is 20,000,000,
  • minimum for Guild/Solo Server (1 turn/7 min) 15,000,000,
  • minimum for Arch Server (1 turn/12 min) is 10,000,000.
  • You need to have spend at least 300 turns (all servers, no trial-and-error reincarnating/rushing)

if the above is satisfied,

  • then you have a 50% chance to get that favour (i.e. bidding 20,000,000 2-3 times usually gives you favour, sometimes you get it the first time...).

It is harder to get favour right after recovering from disfavour.

What god to get favour from?

It depends what bonus you are looking for

What does each god give their favoured then?

Standard Favour Effects

Each god has a standard favor effect that lasts for 48 hours:

  • Nature gives.......... +10% geld generation by farms/towns and pop income
  • Sun gives............. +3% accuracy in battles
  • Moon gives............ +10% node m.p. generation
  • Magic gives.............. +20 SL and decreases casting cost by 10%
  • Science gives........... increased item generation - usually too little to notice. Also increases the effectiveness of using items +10% (like the skill Legendary Artificer).
  • Satan gives........... lowered unit upkeep by 10%
  • Lucifer gives.................. +10% summoning yields/attack power

Random reward for getting God's favour

On top of that, you also gain one of the following (random)

  • 45% chance on an enchantment for 15 turns
  • 5% a random hero of up to level 17 (confirmed up to level 17 by UL- he got a lvl 17 after losing 33 leviathans in battle- it's a balance of lady luck, you lose some you get some-)
  • 20% one lesser item
  • 15% small m.p. refill (kinda like what Wish does)
  • 5% that the Star of Luck will shine upon you
  • 10% a group of Fanatics ('Zealots') joins your army
  • x% the God will test a hero of yours. Failure brings death, success adds one level to your hero. The chances of this are very * small, but it happens.

(estimated chances - feel free to correct)

  • [Correction]: Although its good to have your own enchantment casted beforehand i was able to cast my own concetration AFTER receiving god concetration in order to benefit from the 1 turn research of ultimate spells ( i lost 10 turns of the god's spell to do so - but it was possible )

Can I get favour from more than one god ?

Yes you can but when you try to get a second favour, the first god can become jealous. Read the encyclopedia to get hints who hates who. Some gods are more jealous for other gods than other gods.

Jealousy table

As of January 2007, the Moon/Lucifer God Favor combination is no longer safe.

if you have favour from (god in top row) and want to add favour from (god in left colum), there is a xxx (number in crosstable) chance the first god gets jealous.

Nature Sun Moon Magic Science Satan Lucifer
Nature --25%25%50%50%50%25%
Sun 25%--75%25%25%50%25%
Moon 25%75%--25%?25%25%25%?
Magic 25%?25%25%?--75%25%25%
Science 50%25%25%75%--50%25%
Satan 50%50%50%25%50%--75%
Lucifer 25%25%25%?25%25%75%--

Jealousy remarks

  • the table dates back to Archmage and may no longer be 100% accurate.
  • It is harder to get favour right after recovering from disfavour.When you have got hatred, and you pay it off, dont try to get a 2nd gods' favour right after, it will result in jealousy again.
  • Nature is the god on its own, Sun-Moon, Science-Magic and Satan-Lucifer can be seen as eachother's opposites. Their combo's are the hardest to achieve.
  • First Nature then Magic is considered better odds than other way around. First Magic then Moon, same story (but other way around still a fair chance)

Disfavour and Hatred status

This you get from making gods jealous and donating puny 1 geld amounts.

  • you get the opposite effect as their favour gives you for Disfavour. There are random 'short term' penalties associated with disfavor (Offensive Enchantments, Battle Chant, Serenity, Destroy Artifacts, Fool's Gold, Hero death, Bad Luck, No Damaged Protection, etc. are all possible).
  • you get double the opposite effect for Hatred. (e.g. -40 spell level for Magic Hatred). There are random 'short term' penalties associated with hatred (some more fatal than others), typically much more severe than disfavor penalties. (Offensive Enchantments, Battle Chant, Serenity, Destroy Artifacts, Fool's Gold, Earthquake, Volcano Eruption, a 'Super' Atomic Bomb, Hero Death, Bad Luck, No Damaged Protection, etc. are all possible)
  • You cannot dispell gods spells. (no clue if this is true, but I'm pretty sure minor indulgence gets rid of God spells)
  • Like all God spells, these have increased potency (DA took 50 items from me)

Hero testing

When a god turns from favour to disfavour, one of your heroes may be tested by a God. The possible outcomes are: your hero gains one level, your hero stays, your hero loses one level, lose two levels, or your hero dies.

Example: Gaining Sun's favour right while having Moon's favour. Get a hero, and get it leveled right after.

You offered 30,000,000 gold to Sun, the Father of the Sky.
Sun, the Father of the Sky seems to be very pleased by your generous donation.
Inner strength filled your spirit.
Your action has gained you the favour of Sun, the Father of the Sky.
The hero Vendu Clatian Berserker came to you and offered to serve under your command.
You sense a heavenly conflict between Sun, the Father of the Sky and Moon, the Light in the Night.
You hear roar in anger. You are now disfavoured by Moon, the Light in the Night.
Moon, the Light in the Night tested your hero Vendu Clatian Berserker.
Vendu Clatian Berserker passed Moon, the Light in the Night's test.
Moon, the Light in the Night is pleased with Vendu Clatian's performance.

Sat Mar 15 18:24:43 2008
Vendu Clatian Berserker became level 18.

It is possible for your hero to fail so much that they lose 2 levels. Example:

Magic, the Mother of All and Nothing tested your hero Vandergaard of Faerun Berserker. Vandergaard of Faerun Berserker terribly failed Magic, the Mother of All and Nothing's test.

Name Vandergaard of Faerun Berserker Level 6 (Xp: 16048)

Most Favoured

Yeah, you can get that too

  • You need to be a top10 donator
  • You need to donate almost all of your geld (over 90%)
  • the amount you donate needs to be at least 10x the normal (minimum) donation amount.
  • You need to have special kinds of things in your army (Race/colour/Attacktype units) - differs per god
  • You need special kinds of things with your country / play style - differs per god
    • For Science, it is said that you need at least 1000 lesser items and 1 unique (e.g. a Holy Grail).
    • For Nature, it is said that you have to be peaceful, non-attacking for days.
  • You need special kind of relationship with another god (e.g. HATRED with at least one other god, all neutral, etc) - differs per god
  • The requirements for most favoured sometimes change
  • If all the above is satisfied, then you have a 50% (?) chance to get that most favour.

Jealousy of other gods

  • Other gods may become annoyed on achieving Most-Favoured status.
  • On getting Most-Favoured, other FAVOUR status gods may get jealous and act (like when getting normal Favour) and change status
  • On getting Most-Favoured, other NEUTRAL status gods may get jealous and act (unlike when getting normal Favour)
  • On getting Most-Favoured, other DISFAVOUR/HATRED status gods may get jealous and act

This can have positive effect (i.e. hero-levelling, serenity-when-wanted) but usually it is a negative effect.


What does it bring?

Double what normal favour brings for double the time (48 hours)

Plus special goodies:

Tactics

Pull off a Moon Most Favoured at Armageddon, have the biggest power boost with no turns spending possible, and secure yourself a surprise Hall of Sages spot that way. (But this would only give 13.3M power).

Examples

You offered 660,805,794 gold to Nature, the Beauty of Life.
You cought Nature, the Beauty of Life's attention with your generous sacrifice!
You hear the nature come to life around you.
You are now a chosen one of Nature, the Beauty of Life.
You received Nature's Favour!
You sense a heavenly conflict between Nature, the Beauty of Life and Science, the Magic of the Old World.
You hear roar in anger. You are now disfavoured by Science, the Magic of the Old World.
Science, the Magic of the Old World tested your hero Kayous Seoula Alchemist.
Kayous Seoula Alchemist failed Science, the Magic of the Old World's test.
You sense a heavenly conflict between Nature, the Beauty of Life and Mr. Satan, the Ruler of Nine Hells.
You hear roar in anger. You are now disfavoured by Mr. Satan, the Ruler of Nine Hells.
Mr. Satan, the Ruler of Nine Hells casted Summon Locust Swarm on you!
You sense a heavenly conflict between Nature, the Beauty of Life and Lucifer, the Fallen Angel.
You hear roar in anger. You are now disfavoured by Lucifer, the Fallen Angel.
Lucifer, the Fallen Angel casted Death and Decay on you!

You offered 813,733,594 gold to Sun, the Father of the Sky.
You cought Sun, the Father of the Sky's attention with your generous sacrifice!
There is a sudden clearing in the sky and sun rays shine upon you.
You are now a chosen one of Sun, the Father of the Sky.
A Horde of Red Dragons descent from the sky to aid Sun, the Father of the Sky's favored one!
You sense a heavenly conflict between Sun, the Father of the Sky and Nature, the Beauty of Life.
You hear roar in anger. You are now disfavoured by Nature, the Beauty of Life.
Nature, the Beauty of Life casted Destroy Artifact on you!
You sense a heavenly conflict between Sun, the Father of the Sky and Mr. Satan, the Ruler of Nine Hells.
You hear roar in anger. You can feel Mr. Satan, the Ruler of Nine Hells's hatred burning in your soul.
Mr. Satan, the Ruler of Nine Hells casted Serenity on you 6 times!
You sense a heavenly conflict between Sun, the Father of the Sky and Lucifer, the Fallen Angel.
You hear roar in anger. You are now disfavoured by Lucifer, the Fallen Angel.
Lucifer, the Fallen Angel casted Serenity on you 3 times!